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Pondering while waiting for my plans....


Hello everyone, while waiting for my plans to arrive, and thinking about, someday, starting a build, I had some thoughts. Not knowing much about trike dynamics, I am under the impression the front end needs to be properly weight biased. (What this is I don't know!) Anyway, browsing
at the pics, it came to me that if the front shocks were horizonal verses vertical, the driver and center of mass could move forward a good amount. Maybe I'm trying to re-engineer a properly engineered vehical, I dunno.

Are there any skid pad numbers available on the original?

Also, what size die do I need (to buy) for my bender?
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Certainly mounting the shocks horizontally should be [sign in to see URL]'s actually, I think, the more common configuration. Here's a link to an interesting trike build that you might want to look at how he did the front suspension. [sign in to see URL] While there are some things that aren't my cup of tea with this build, the craftsmanship is amazing, he's got a clever idea for reverse, and I LOVE the turbo! emoticon
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You don't necessarily need to bend the tubing. If you check Richard's build photo, you'll see that he chose to mitre the joints which allowed him to skip the bending and end up with a nice frame.

I chose to bend my tubing since I had a relative that had a tubing bender, the die was a 3" one if I remember that right.

My shocks are vertical but looking back at pictures of my build I would have had to rearrange some things, I think my master cylinder would have gotten in the way.

I had it out on my sisters paved turnaround and with a 600cc engine you can break the tire loose in a turn so personally I am glad I don't have my weight biased any further forward. I've only had it out on the backroads for a couple of miles testing it so I may feel differently after I have my project completed and can flog it a bit.

Skid pad number would be of interest to lot of us but I haven't seen any.



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Acerguy, Nice Post with the M-ride site!

I like the layout of that suspension, especially the rocker-arm and shock location. The actual arms look like they would suffer from the same thing that mine have to deal with to some degree, and that is the distance between the heim joints on an arm increasing/decreasing as the camber/caster is adjusted. I like how several IndyCycle builders have used the aircraft grade aerodynamic tubing for their design with great success. I may try swapping the swingarms upright on my rebuild and relocating the steering to see if that improves handling (that, and adding the steering ratio gearing box from Flaming River so that my lock-to-lock isn't 1.5. Toooo sensitive.

But again, nice post!

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 Jamieson, Did you infact change the steering box and ratio on your rebuild? My house hunting is getting very serious and I have kicked out more and more houses as I may have found the right one now. Having a couple buildings a barn and a 20X20 workshop I think I'm fairly locked in on this awesome 5 bedroom, aprox 2,975 [sign in to see URL]. house. Having my own space to build a couple IndyCycles (one GSX-R600, and one BMW 1200?) I want to build and then travel from coast-to-coast several times. Putting the Cart in front of the Horse already, I can hardly wait to build then travel...
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Hey, lindseyangell. Good luck with getting things in order. I'm finally going to have proper garage myself in a few weeks. Then I can start getting serious about this again.
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acerguy, Great for you!!! I never received any feedback from teh fella in FL that claims to have had the rear wheel setup so that he can use car tires and therefore get much more mileage out of a tire. I don't know if jamieson the owner and designer is aware of all the [sign in to see URL] kinda feel bad for him in a way cause he is so busy. I hope he finds the time to getr really serious in this trike and get re-involved, esp now tha trthe newer bikes are Computer run and we can adjust the fuel mapping and all on the GSX-r600 aned so on. I never could get that interested in all the valve timig and then havign to go and readjust the carbs so that they too were right on the money, although it makes all the difference inthe world when you are riding. My back is about completely gone so I use a cane, but hope to delay the wheelchair a little longer. I NEED the IndyCycle, not just WANT it. I don't like the sidecar at all. I would think that you could take the motor and swingarm out of the frame and then discard the rest of teh bike, except the things you need. Then you could put the radiator just above the head (make an opening there) and then follow up with the gas with plenty of heat pad between the motor and [sign in to see URL]'ve been redrawing the trike and I really like the style. With todays LED's I think that the setup could relly be awesome for night driving. I think too a little metal lip could be installed and even set up for a Lexan add on for less buffetign of the wind if you wanted it for long distance highway [sign in to see URL] it off for local riding. I have some great ideas and I hope Jamieson is on board with us ande has soem ideas and all. I live in Kansas CIty, KS right now and may be moving to CA soon, but can purchase all teh parts and do all teh workl in ca and use my sons address in KS to get the thing all done and then put into my name... I'd love to chat with you about soem ideas and building [sign in to see URL] usign sheet meatl vrs fiberglass for the body and powdercoating...
Thanks, Lindsey Angell
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